Lunar
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Post by Lunar on Oct 28, 2008 4:15:56 GMT
Over time, I've made a few predictions about Bleach that seem logical to me, but they seem a tad odd. This is my first of three sets of predictions, Logical Assumptions. Orihime kills UlquioraI have no doubt that Ichigo will fight him in a climactic battle, but I have this feeling that he won't win. I think that a nearly fatal wound will piss off Orihime and she will finally have the desire to kill somebody with Tsubaki's power, the victim being Ulquiora. Death of FamilyAizen (being the asshole that he is) or one of the Arrancar will probably go after Ichigo's sisters at some point. Whether they live or not I'm only fifty percent sure on, but I think one of them will die (but become a soul) and that will throw Ichigo into a furry the likse of which no one as ever seen. Hollow PowerThis makes a little more sense, but I think Ichigo will gain a greater degree of control of his Hollow powers to the point he can use Cero and maybe High-speed Regeneration. It would most likely be triggered by something terrible happening.(My previous prediction?) KepachiI'm pretty sure the other captains who haven't shown their bankais yet will do so, but I have a feeling Kenpachi may at least learn his swords name LOLI have a fealing that one of Ichigo's attacks on Aizen will fit very well into a certain internet fad.Beyond BankaiMy least likely prediction, but personal favorite. A sword release past Bankai, that old man Yama will know about but never had seen with his own eyes. Just like my hollow power prediction, it would be triggered by something terrible. That's all for right now, but I want your opinions on them. Stay tuned for my next sets of predictions, The Royal Dimension and Beyond Bleach.
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Destiny-Shiva
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Post by Destiny-Shiva on Oct 28, 2008 9:06:09 GMT
Aha! Someone other than me has thought of the beyond bankai possibility! I've been considering that one for months; and if you think it quite logically, something like that must be true. The fighting in Bleach will probably get quite stale if they is no next step to change into. It's beginning to get monotonous with Ichigo, considering he always just more or less the exact same strategy. As for who has it... I'm thinking that Old Man Yama would have one (no way in hell is Ichigo going to surpass Yama level), and possibly even Shunsui and Ukitake? They are supposed to be unmatched in strength than anyone younger or older *besides Yama himself*, so perhaps this is why?
I never thought of the Orihime killing Ulquiorra one, though the could be plausible too. Though no offense to Orihime fans, but that would be a very pathetic death for Ulquiorra...
I like the idea of Kenpachi's blade falling being named. I think it's almost definite that he will discover it at some point; otherwise the scene where he tries asking it in the manga and anime wouldn't have been there...
There's my comments. Zestelne-chan~
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Post by Peishin Louh on Oct 28, 2008 12:19:25 GMT
didn't Zaraki refer to his zanpakuto as a "she" in one of the films? or is that my imagination?
yes, yes, i know, the films don't fit in with the main story. otherwise Hitsugaya etc would know about Ikkaku's bankai etc etc. i only mention it out of interest and because i'm rooting for him to learn its name too.
as for beyond bankai, i'm not so sure. Aizen did say that there were limits to a shinigami's powers and as he can already use bankai it suggests to me that there isn't another level. it raises another interesting prediction though, if Lunar doesn't mind me putting it out there.
Aizen vs Yamomoto?
I cheer for Aizen-taicho. Down with the Old Man!
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Post by The Tortured Soul on Oct 29, 2008 6:05:36 GMT
Oh dear Louh is a dirty traitor and my Captain's are throwing about ideas I detest! *sigh* I've heard it many times, it's even been brought up here a few times in some random threads and I've slammed it down. There is NO stage after Bankai. Bankai literally means FINAL release... it'd be a pointless name if there was a release after it! (though isn't strength enough... as before Bankai came about whenever anyone released Shikai they also called it their Zanpakuto's "True form" but there ya go ) But also yes, what Louh said, it has been stated there is a limit and Aizen has reached said limit. In terms of the RP I will NEVER allow a release after Bankai, you want more power? improve your stats, you hit your limit? then maybe try and sneakily become a Vizard (though this could easily get you killed). but No another stage doesn't exists as far as BH world is concerned! In terms of the disscussion forum sure through about these ideas as much as you like... my veiw is this. If Bleach crosses that line and puts in a release after Bankai then it's gone too far into DBZ territory (oh yeah you thought Super Sayian 3 was the last stage, nope there is a 4 but only Goku has ever reached it! and a 5 and a... GAH!) and at that point I will stop watching. Now in terms of discussion I'll put this aside and try and speculate a way where another release wouldn't piss me off... The closest I can get would be if through tapping your Inner Hollow powers and Zanpakuto powers... maybe, just maybe learning another Release that combines your Zanpakuto and Hollow powers (maybe releasing your Hollow form and signature abilities, but still keeping your Zanpakuto and your mind) I dunno. It would meanit wasn't breaking the previous rule as it's only achieved when you surpass the limit... But again it'd be bordering on DBZ territory. I mean come on, out of all the characters who is the only one we have seen use his Hollow powers together with his Zanpakuto. Yep the Main Character... oh and Aizen might conceivably do it too as he wants to blur the lines... So yeah a situation where only the main character and the main antagonist has this "new level of power" I don't think I'd wanna go there, especially when trying to run a balanced RPG, it's bad enough that everyone wants Bankai without ever taking rarity into consideration, another Release would just do my head in. (yez my characterz Pwnz will you approve it, I juzt watched tha ep with the new release so i put that on my characterz too!plz plz plz approvze it!) I was gunna comment on the other things but I think I have ranted enough! (i.e. oh look Tort has posted yet another huge post! stupid fanboy... I know your all thinking it! )
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ramennoodles452
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Post by ramennoodles452 on Oct 29, 2008 18:49:39 GMT
In the Soul Society Arc, After Ichigo barely beats Kenpachi, he asks for his swords name, and after a second or so, he puts the sword down and grins. So Ken MIGHT know his zanpaktou's name. I just don't think he's ever been/will be pushed to that limit.
I think the Visards might do something important though.... I mean, they just kinda died off story wise. lol.
I have a feeling that Nel dies/sacrifices herself for Ichigo sooner or later. T_T If that happens I'll run off and cry in a corner for a couple of days.
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Lunar
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Post by Lunar on Oct 29, 2008 19:06:00 GMT
Disclaimer: This topic was in know way created to force Tort to bring down the Torthammer for my own personal amusement I agree with you completely Tort, it is a terrible idea. The reason I even thought of it was do to a trend I've seen throughout both anime and video games. In the final fight, there is always some kind of new ability that they either just gained or had never used before in the show. Though I did like your idea of using the hollow powers with bankai, if I could draw I would definitely draw that. But besides that, I want opinions on all my ideas. As I was tired when I posted this (sorry for stealing your usual excuse Tort) I forgot one that went on that list. ArrancarThis one also has some roots in DBZ. I noticed that they never really showed Grimjow die. Last time I remember seeing him, he was on the ground after being attack by Nnoitra and he told Ichigo about him. Before that Ichigo was going to let Grimjow live after their fight and shunned Nnoitra for attacking him. If he turns out to be alive, I think there is a good chance he will fight against Aizen with the shinigami. The same goes for that one Arrancar who fought Chad (This is based more on something I saw on a manga page) and maybe a few others.
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Post by Peishin Louh on Oct 29, 2008 21:35:49 GMT
It'd be interesting, but out of character for Grimmjow methinks.
Perhaps a temporary alliance? Then Grimmjow could build his strength and attack Ichigo again. But Grimmjow can't get any stronger, can he, since he became arrancar?
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Lunar
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Post by Lunar on Dec 2, 2008 14:01:42 GMT
Welcome to the next episode of Controversial Predictions! This list is titled The Royal Dimension since it features many details involving the King of Soul Society.
Aizen He is very crafty, but I don't think he'll be able to destroy Karakura town. I think that in the efforts to stop them, either Gin or Tosen will be killed in battle but Aizen reveals a secret technique for making the King's Key using the power of a dying shinigami captain, or something along those lines. Then him, the captain who was killed, and a few remaining Arrancar will go to the king's dimension and close the door behind them.
The Key Of course, if Aizen goes to the king's dimension they will have to go after him, meaning they will need the key. Old man Yama will probably have to reveal its location, which I'm betting will be somewhere no one expected.
Guards I'm pretty sure there will be some kind of powerful defense creatures that don't discriminate between friend and foe. The result will likely be an epic battle, but who would be fighting I can't guess.
The Zero Squad Since almost everyone has read Turning Back the Pendulum, then you know about the Zero Squad/Royal Guard, which consists of former Captains. I'm betting they will show up, and one of them end up in a fight with Aizen.
The King Not much to base anything on, but I'm sure the king is either some super powerful shinigami or something odd and unexpected.
Father This may happen before going to the King's dimension. Ichigo's and Uryu's dads will most likely show up to help their sons, then reveal to them their relationship to one another and Urahara.
Thoughts and comments pweaze!
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Post by Peishin Louh on Dec 3, 2008 18:01:28 GMT
If you're correct about Aizen, I hope it's Tosen that gets killed ^.^
About the Key: Yeah. It'll probably be in his pocket.
Guards - not sure what you mean here... do you mean they'll be guarding the King's dimension? Because I thought Zero squad did that. As for Zero squad, I don't think they'll pose much of a threat to Aizen. He wouldn't invade the King's dimension without taking them into consideration in his plans.
One question - is Zero squad as large as the normal Court Guard squads? I don't imagine so, 'cause if it is, that means Aizen's facing a couple of hundred captains at least!
The King ~ he's God, pretty much, from what I've gathered. Again, Aizen must have planned to deal with him and is presumably better informed than we are about him. Whatever he is and whatever powers he turns out to have it'll be interesting though. It'd be a bit of a twist if the King was actually weak, like God in a certain series I've read.
(I won't name the books about that last bit, as I think someone on this site is busy reading them).
Father: that would be something I'd love to see. It'd be interesting how Kubo handled it, as that's a helluva lot of info for the sons to take in and a lot of emotion will come from such a revealing. Even if you didn't spin it out it could last a few episodes.
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Post by The Tortured Soul on Dec 4, 2008 6:15:11 GMT
Considering this topic was almost designed to drive me insane and go mental with the TortHammer I don't really wanna post in it much... My brain will explode with anger or something, also tonight I'm tired (yeah I know the usual) so I don't feel like swinging the TortHammer, but I wanna comment on something that's been bugging me that I've seen a few times on the forums. Then Grimmjow could build his strength and attack Ichigo again. But Grimmjow can't get any stronger, can he, since he became arrancar? People have been saying this a lot, but not only is this never stated it's simply not true! It HAS been stated that Hollows who get eaten even partially by another cannot progress menos Class. But the level of Menos is not the be all and end all of Hollow power, espcially when you take into consideration Arrancar. It hasn't even been stated that Arrancar who haven't been partially eaten cannot continue their Menos class (though personally I'd say they aren't Menos, to some degree even Hollow anymore and only refered to by class linked to what Menos level they came from when they were masked Hollow. So where they came from will never change, thus they will never be refered to as a Vasto Lord Arrancar when they have never been a Vasto Lord Hollow). Arrancar CAN progress in strength AND it has even been shown (look at Nnoitra). In terms of how they can improve their strength I can only go so far to say how I will/would run it in the Main RP. They can improve their Arrancar Abilities through training them (Heirro, Cero, Sonido etc etc) they can develop new special attacks that a signature to themselves though based on Arrancar abilites (like Nel's Double Cero or the Zommari's Gemelos Sonído). I'll even allow them to improve their Hollow abilties they have in their released form, through their increase in strength and thus growth as a Hollow. That last one though I don't think I can confirm has happend in the show I'm adding that because I see no reason to not allow Arrancar characters to continue to grow. So in short, yes Arrancar can become stronger they aren't stagnent! (Note: if this or any other post made today seems to have more spelling errors it's because I'm having to post from the family computer not mine for reasons I won't explain right now. So I have no firefox with spell checker... oh and this thing is a DINOSAUR takes so long for anything to load... damn I love my Quad Core, it's good to come back to this and be reminded just how good my computer is hehe)
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Lunar
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Post by Lunar on Dec 6, 2008 2:37:11 GMT
That was a little off topic of you Tort, but you make a very good point. He will never be able to become a Vasto Lorde, but Arrancar can definitely become stronger on their own. An example you missed was Dondochaka and Peche, the created Cero Cincretico which may have been strong enough to kill Syzel had they used it earlier.
Also Louh, when I said gaurds I meant like some kind of security system that no one below captain level could get through, like giant living statues or tamed hollow or something.
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Dec 6, 2008 15:30:59 GMT
Tamed Hollow. Oxymoronic, don't you think? 'Sides, it's always statues.
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Post by Peishin Louh on Dec 7, 2008 2:44:34 GMT
Not really oxymoronic. After all there are many bound demons in historic and fictional literature.
I agree in part with choco's last statement. Statues. Must be ^.^
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